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Re: how to modify styles in Endnote Web

You are side-stepping the question.

 

My question was if it is possible to produce a journal article in a common and heavily used style with your product as it's delivered (without requiring local customizations, styles, and extra server and this and that).

 

Can it do that?

 

 

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Re: how to modify styles in Endnote Web

In your earlier post, you reference the Chicago Style guide that states that the style "often" includes notes and the bibliography. Your particular need is not one of the more frequent use-cases for this style. We try to support the broadest range of users' needs but also try to support as many individual journals possible. In the event a style is not quite right, the desktop provides the ability to customize a style to meet your individual needs.

I apologize that you are not finding this to be the case for ITAL. My colleague has offered to create a style for you and coordinate with your administrator to post the style for your EndNote Web set. If this is not suitable, you have the option to create a custom style directly with EndNote.


Thank you for your feedback,

  Mathilda, the EndNote Web team
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Re: how to modify styles in Endnote Web

Mathilda,

 

you say you "try to support the broadest range of users' needs" and that my "particular need is not one of the more frequent use-cases for this style."

 

I have provided a) the instructions for the journal I'm submitting too, b) a random example of a paper from a different journal that follows the same guidelines. Personally, I've never seen a journal article that either has both Endnotes and a bibliography, or in which the bibliography contained cited pages rather than page ranges. My intuition is that it just wouldn't make sense.

 

I challenged you to provide a single journal article that can be created with Endnote Web's Chicago style as it is. Surely, if you support "frequent use-cases" you ought to be able to show just one example. Are you able to?

 

This is bizarre; I know I must be wrong, I just like to learn how and why.

 

 

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Re: how to modify styles in Endnote Web

There is a straight forward method for changing Chicago A in EndNote to accomplish what you want which is described in this post - http://community.thomsonreuters.com/ts/board/message?board.id=en-files&message.id=197&query.id=19522#M197. This method would provide the complete footnote and remove the bibliography so no modification would be needed after a reformat and you could re-use the style for all appropriate future publications.

 

So we can create a modified style for you and coordinate with your EndNote Web site admin to get it posted if you provide your institution information. (Note: Often the site administrator will make these customizations for you.) You can do it directly with EndNote and we can put you in touch with your admin to get it posted. Lastly, we can investigate the frequency of this request to provide a standard Chicago A footnote without a bibliography.

 

Let me know your preference, specifically if you would like us to coordinate getting the style posted through your administrator. The goal of our applications is to make formatting easier, and I believe we can still accomplish that for you.

 

Best regards,

 

 - Mathilda, the EndNote Web team

 

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Re: how to modify styles in Endnote Web

Mathilda,

 

thank you for your reply.

 

You are still side-stepping my question. You claim that your product Endnote Web, as provided, covers "frequent" use-cases of Chicago Style A. You further claim that my use case of an endnote-style bibliography with page ranges is not frequent and thus would require either the use of your Desktop product (and the inconveniences it entails) or the site-specific accommodations.

 

Please either retract those claims, or provide a single example of a published paper that is using Chicago A that can be created with Endnote Web as you provide it.

 

For what it's worth, finding the counterexample whose DOI I provided didn't require any effort on my part - it was the first journal paper using this style I encountered in a Google search.

 

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Re: how to modify styles in Endnote Web

The article example you provided actually uses a numbered style within the text and a numbered bibliography at the end. Regarding your request for an article example that EndNote Web would support using Chicago A with footnotes and a bibliography, please refer to any of the papers published by the NeoAmericanist journal - http://www.neoamericanist.org/papers.html.

 

Best regards,

 

 - Mathilda

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Re: how to modify styles in Endnote Web


medmunds wrote:

The article example you provided actually uses a numbered style within the text and a numbered bibliography at the end.

 

Yes - and that is exactly what I need!

 

So can an article like that one (at dx.doi.org/10.1111/j.1468-5930.2009.00427.x) be created with Endnote Web as is?

Note that the article uses page ranges in is bibliography and does not have a separate endnote section, nor does it use footnotes.

 

If so, please explain how. Perhaps using a different technique than inserting endnotes in the text?

 

If not, confirm that it's not possible.

 

Regarding your request for an article example that EndNote Web would support using Chicago A with footnotes and a bibliography, please refer to any of the papers published by the NeoAmericanist journal - http://www.neoamericanist.org/papers.html.

 

I stand corrected. I note though that this makes sense only with footnotes that can appear at the bottom of each page, not with endnotes.


 

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Re: how to modify styles in Endnote Web

Hello gback,

 

I was incorrect that the example you provided was a numbered style.  It was using endnotes and a format different from Chicago A (e.g., author name treatment). I apologize for that confusion. Using a numbered style would not give you the flexibility to use Edit Citation(s) to add additional information, like "see articles in..." As mentioned earlier, it will not necessarily comply with other Chicago A formatting guidelines.

 

I have a modified Chicago A style so please look for a private message with additional information.

 

Best regards,

 

  - Mathilda

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Re: how to modify styles in Endnote Web

We posted a new Chicago A style on July 30, 2009 in EndNote Web that should address this format. Please give "Chicago A (endnotes only)" a try.

 

 - Mathida

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Re: how to modify styles in Endnote Web

Hi, 

 

I am accessing Endnote Web trough my institution (University of Northern British Columbia), however the bilbiographic styles I have access to are very limited (21 styles total). I've talked with my librairan and they can access tons of other styles (I need a journal specific style - Microbial Ecology). I don't know why I can't see those other styles from my account. 

 

Thanks for any help