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Fix Period Problem With Long Footnotes

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I am currently a PhD student in a humanities field and we in humanities love long footnotes with multiple references in one footnote.  As currently set up, Endnote adds a period to the end of every ciation, leaving periods in the middle of sentences when they don't belong there.  Currently there is no way to get rid of them easily without changing the output style, etc.  That creates even more problems as seen in the link below. Also, then one has to add a period after every citation, even if there are no page numbers necessary. You need to add an "exclude period" checkmark like you currently have now for the author and year in the edit footnotes dialogue box.  This problem alone is keeping almost every professor I know from using Endnote becasue they are annoyed by this. 

 

See here for another iteration of the problem.

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Re: Fix Period Problem With Long Footnotes

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This is still a problem in X3 with Word 2007! please help!

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Re: Fix Period Problem With Long Footnotes

It appears that X4.0.1 (which I use with Word 2007) also has that problem. I very much wish that EndNote will soon offer a check box that lets you decide whether or not to add a period at the end of a citation or not. I am spending hours after hours generating my citations over and over (without ever saving the resulting file) in order to find the best solutions (or rather workarounds). Given the severe problems connected with editing output styles, one should not have to edit anything in order to obtain the desired results; that is the software's job.

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Just to give an example of a workaround I had to create for one note was to change my text from

 

* The most detailed sources about Stevenson are {MacDonald, 1989 #350} and {Scott-Sutherland, 2005 #330}

 

to:

 

* The most detailed source about Stevenson is {Scott-Sutherland, 2005 #330} See also {MacDonald, 1989 #350}

 

Otherwise my note would read (see the superfluous period after "1989"):

 

The most detailed sources about Stevenson are Malcolm MacDonald, Ronald Stevenson: A Musical Biography, NLS Themes of Scotland (Edinburgh: National Library of Scotland, 1989). and Colin Scott-Sutherland, Ronald Stevenson: The man and his music — A symposium (London: Toccata Press, 2005).

 

I agree that the change is rather minor, but having to modify the content of a given text to account for the idiosyncrasies of a piece of software is not acceptable.

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This is still my most frustrating part of using Endnote. For such a seemingly small fix, this issue creates huge problems for anybody in the humanities.

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I am glad that someone is reviving this thread, which was created in 2008. I offered a detailed example in October 2010 that shows the shenanigans required to sidestep the problem and, so far, no one at EndNote has reacted. It would be nice to know whether they agree that this limitation is an obstacle to efficiency and intend to come up with a solution. As the previous poster so aptly put it, this is creating problems for people in the humanities.

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Another bump. Three years later and this problem still exists. I cannot recommend this product to anyone in the humanities until this problem is fixed. 

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It saddens me to say that, eight months after I last offered some explanations about this major issue, the original poster had no choice but to revive the thread again in the hope of eliciting a response from EndNote's programmers. As I tried to show in an earlier post, no one should have to recast the contents of the notes in order to avoid some of the software's limitations. A very significant segment of the scholarly community has to live with a problem that they should not have to care about. EndNote, now in its fifteenth version, should have matured enough as a piece of software to have found a solution to this problem. Many would appreciate if the programmers kindly agreed to at least give us an idea of where they stand with regard to this issue.

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I received a note from an Endnote employee who imformed me they will look at this issue and post an update here after they have discussed it as a team. I am happy that they are responding to my post and hope they will decide to fix this issue in their next update. I understand they can't implement all the suggestions, but I think this one is worthy of some time investment. Thank you to Endnote for looking into this matter. 

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Are there any developments in this regard? I hope that reviving the thread (which was last updated in July 2011, i.e., two years ago) will elicit a reply from the publishers. Does the new X7 version fix this major problem which, as the above posts show, is a major annoyance for users in the humanities? It still is a problem with X5.