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Re: EndNote X2 - First Impressions and suggestions

We are currently working on adding a Preference to allow one to choose between the EndNote X2 Online Search model and the old “Temporary Library” model. We plan to include this in a free upgrade patch for both Windows and Macintosh this fall.

 

Please feel free to contact me directly – by email or phone – with any additional comments, questions, or suggestions for any of our bibliographic products.

 

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Jason E. Rollins, PhD

Director, Product Management

Research Software

Scientific

Thomson Reuters

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Re: EndNote X2 - First Impressions and suggestions

Dear JasonR,

 

that sounds great!

 

Can you do the same for the duplicate check? PLEASE!

 

When I try to find duplicates within the database - Endnote X.2 displays a temporary Duplicate References group and shows only the potential duplicates. The group does not include the original reference for each set of duplicates anymore.

 

For me - working in a health technology agency it is just not possible to work like that. I have to double check whith the original reference to make REALLY sure that the duplicate is realy a duplicate. A lot of times Endnote makes mistakes, when there is not a lot of data within the records (no year, no author).

 

The suggestion in the Endnote manual to go to "all references" and double check might work when you have 20 references in your library but I work whith up to 8000 records - so always jumping, scrolling up und down is really annoying - specially when I know that in Endnote X.1 and before it was no problem!

 

Thanks a lot so far. Whish you a nice holiday tomorrow!

 

Yours sincerely

Elke Hausner

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Thank you Jason.  This is definitely a step back in the right direction. I would not waste resources comparing the existing workflow with other software.  As far as i am concerned, EndNote X1 sets the current standard.  The goal should be enhancing it and not a departure from that workflow.

 

Please also note that there ia a serious instabiliy issue with the current build of EndNote X2, which sometimes crashes when the user pressed ctrl+D to delete reference entries.  This has already wreaked havoc on my libraries.

 

 

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Re: EndNote X2 - First Impressions and suggestions

Perhaps Thomson might consider a better beta testing model than is currently being used. Useability tests outside of the community of power users is plainly an inadequate model of testing new features. Among other things, it undermines the confidence of the community of users in the product. There are many products catching up to Endnote that are in some ways more powerful, like Zotero, and free or at least more affordable. I think buyers of this product deserve more careful consideration of new features to avoid debacles like this silly feature addition--an addition that could only have been cooked up in a lab utterly free of actual users.
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Wow, thank goodness I ran into this discussion.  I posted a question about this in another Endnote forum and was told about the new automatic search process.  I asked if this could be turned off and received no response.  I thought that I must be seriously missing something, as I found this new "feature" quite troubling, to the point of deciding not to use Endnote anymore, because I'm scared of my library endlessly expanding.  Plus, I can't be bothered deleting references I don't want.  I'm really happy to hear that the company will be addressing this issue shortly.  If I didn't know this, I would have moved to another citation manager and never looked back.  The new search process is just plain scary.

 

I have one additional request, related to this situation.  I now have a ton of new references that I don't want and some that I purposefully chose.  I'd like to be able to get rid of all the excess references, but I'm not sure how to do so without reviewing each of them.  Even if I order them by reference # (so the new ones show up last), this would be a real hassle, since I've purposefully chosen a bunch of the new references.  The most efficient way for me to remove the unwanted references would be to search for all references that are not assigned to a custom group, since I assign all of my references to custom groups when I download them.  Hence, any references that are not assigned to a custom group would be excess references that were automatically downloaded in addition to the ones I purposefully chose (i.e. references I purposefully chose in recent searches have been categorized away into custom groups as I usually do).  Unfortunately, while there is a way to search for references that have been placed in reference groups, there doesn't appear to be a way to search for references that are not assigned to any custom groups.  If there is a way, please share!  If there is not, I request this option to be included in the upcoming patch. 

 

Thank you and thank goodness I won't have to change citation managers!

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1) Make the search fix available ASAP, like yesterday.

 

2) the extremely attactive feature of version X2 is the Find full text feature.  In this feature Endnote will go on the web and download and attached the pdf file of a reference.  This would be a wonderful feature for me, unfortunately it fails many more times than it succeeds.  I can't figure out why it fails and why it succeeds.

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Hi,

 

I am actively considering progressing to use EndNote X2, but this nagging problem badly corrupted my library, which I took effort to keep clean and relevant. May I know the time frame of having this patch?

 

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Re: EndNote X2 - First Impressions and suggestions

The EndNote X2.01 free upgrade patch for Windows and Macintosh is scheduled for release by the end of October 2008.

 

Jason Rollins, EndNote Product Development

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Re: EndNote X2 - First Impressions and suggestions

Thanks.

That's quite a long wait. But will definitely look forward to this.

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Hi, my first post on this forum.

 

I use X1 on a PC at work and need to run a mirrored library on my Mac at home. Ideally I would prefer the same version of Endnote on both machines, however as I can only get X2 from the site, I downloaded the trial version to try out. 

 

After a short time working the same workflow that I have used since Endnote 4, I became really frustrated and went searching for answers in this forum. It now appears that what I thought was a bug/problem with my settings (I searched through the preferences carefully) of getting my PubMed searches dumped directly into my carefully vetted library is actually a carefully researched 'feature'. I'm really not happy with this. I would far rather dump the X2 when the trial runs out and get a copy of X1 - bit of course that's not available!

 

I now have a dilemma:  I would still prefer the same versions on mac and PC, but there's no way I'm updating my PC X1 to X2. And there doesn't appear to be another solution. 

 

I read Jason's replies as to why this change has occurred and I'm not convinced.  The comparison with Outlook is really not relevant - I want to choose what I put into my libraries and my searching is deliberately less than pinpoint accurate in case I pull up something serendipitously. I've never found it a huge problem moving the references I want into my library and disposing of the rest when I upload the next search. 

 

I like the look and functionality of X1 that I use on my windows machine. I would really like a copy of Endnote X1 for Mac!!