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Inserting page numbers

Im using the latest version of EndNote on WIndows 7 Ultimate, word 2013, reference style J Public Admin Res Theory. WHY is it sooooo difficult to insert pages numbers?? I cant find how to do it. I need page numbers for certain citations in certain places, but there does not seem to be a sensible way to do it. Please help

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The easiest way is to edit the citation (right click) more and put the text with cited pages in the suffix, not the pages line.  -- 

 

Otherwise you need to edit the output style citation template to include "Cited Pages" as a field.  I did that in the attached version, but you need to open and save this and then change the output style in the word processing program (not in Endnote program).  You will probably need to view all styles to find it after saying as it won't appear automatically in the dropdown, until you select it.  

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im sorry, but could you describe the process of adding pages in the suffix step by step. when i right click i choose Edit Citations, then More?

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i dont understand what suffix means and where to put the cited pages in it. when i right click on a citaiton and choose more a new windows pops up where i can't see any "suffix", can you please clarify where to find the mysterious suffix? )

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At least in Windows version of endnote x7.3.1 -- you get a menu, after rt clicking in a formated citation, and choose Edit citation, then choosing more... from the dropdown menu.  

 

In the attached image you either put the text (with punctuation and text) into the suffix field, OR you put it in the pages field, using an output style that provides the punctuation and text required such as in the one I modified and attached to the previous message.   

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thank you, i am amazed how i managed not to see these fields before ... 

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This is still such a cumbersome system, with too many steps for good work flow.

How come there is no option to add pages when you are adding the original citation using the "insert citation" action? Surely having an option there, when you select the reference, to add page numbers would not be too difficult? Having to insert the citation, wait for the whole VBA field process to finish its updating, then right clicking on the recently added field, selecting 'edit citations', finding the citation you wish to add the page numbers too (if you have many references in that group), then adding the page numbers, then updating it again (setting the VBA processing going all over again) is a burdensomely ineffecient way of doing something so simple. 

When working on lengthy documents (e.g. PhD theses of books), or extensively researched documents, the ludicrously inefficient work flow decreases productivity to a significant degree. You could skip all that pain if adding page numbers was coded into the same window as adding citations.

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You can if you turn off CWYW and put it in the temporary citations.  I still work with cwyw off (auto formating).  Insert citation – temporary looks like this {author, year #recno} or my preferred {author, year label} [which avoids the whole sync problem if you routinely copy the rec number into the label field] and then put in your page numbers {author, year #recno@1-2}  or suffix {Author, year #recno for a more complete explanation} or prefix {for review see \Author, year #recno}.  

 

Really all the fancy stuff slows you down, in my opinion.  Then with the click of a button to "update citations and bibliography", they all get converted seemlessly.  

 

But I am an old dog and that is the way Endnote worked when I started!  Yes, I will probably retire or die soon.  Smiley Wink

 

 

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Game changer! Cheers Leanne - this sounds right up my alley.

I'm still using X5, to turn of CWYW, do I deselect the "Enable Instant Formatting on new Word documents" option? A

The clunkiness of waiting for all the flashy updating each time you add a reference has been driving me nuts for years. Have a 75 page chapter at the moment, that is comparatively light on references, and it is just torture. I'd much rather manually type the references and then manually update in one fell swoop when I am walking away from the computer for a bit.

Would multiple refs look something like: {Gounaris, 2007 #53@89; Coldstream, 2003 #77@306; Vink, 1997 #82@126; Weiberg, 2016 #4493@67}?

(mind you - still don't understand why they can't have page numbers in the insert citation window, OR the option to stay in that window and keep adding references when you are citing multiples - which for me is all 300 footnotes so far!)

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Hmm, weirdness: Just tried that manual citation (also, unchecking that box didn't turn off auto--update - would love to know where I can do that?), and got this result:

Vink 1997: 126; : 306; Gounaris 2007: 89; Weiberg 2016: 67.

Any idea why Coldstream went awol? He's in the list when you rightclick on it and go to edit citations (also in the page number seen above), but no idea why the reference isn't showing?